Crow - Nomination for Flying Squad

[davetolomy]

Most of you have met Crow AKA Danny at FS jams. He's been jamming with us frequently for quite a while.

I've talked and trained with him quite a bit over the last few days and this guy has a really serious attitude to training. He's very willing to try new moves and stuff and his dedication to learning them is amazing.

For example the other day me and him spent a good 2 hours at the block because he wanted to improve his kongs. Now that's dedication ;D

With this approach to training combined with his friendly, talkative attitude he would make a fine addition to Flying Squad.

Guess it's on other members to vouch for him and for Jon and Fern to make the decision

[fogs]

Again you proove the point as to why you are called Labotomy.
Leave it alone Labotomy, just let things take there natural course. You making recomendations will make no differance what so ever, In fact in my eyes it makes you look naive and highlights that you dont yet understand what Flying Squad is. You should keep out of this kind of thing and simply allow others to impress FS in their own way. Crow can find out what he needs to do to become an FS member be talking to Flying Squad family members and showing them that he wants to be a part of Flying Squad by representing Flying Squad principals.
This really is a situation when actions speak louder than words.
Crow should get to know FS family, he should speak with Kid, Forbes, Beast, Monk and the rest. These are the traceurs whose example he should follow in regards to training and attitude.

From what i've seen of crow he is doing fine as he is.
Time will tell if he is the right material for Flying Squad.
I would imagine that JamesPK is next in line, He is a nice fella who goes about things in the right way, he trains, trains , then trains some more. He never makes a fuss is always there and is already becoming a valued member of Flying Squad. He has never had to make a fuss or try to manipulate a situation he simply gets on with inproving his ability in the best way possible. It is easy to see how dedicated James PK is by watching him and paying attention to the way he trains.
As always 'actions speaks louder than words'.

Crow seems a nice bloke, however, he has a way to go before he would be considered for membership of Flying Squad. He should continue with what he is doing and focusing his efforts on becoming the best traceur he can. You (Labotomy) making noises about him (Crow) wont effect any decision other than reconfirming with me that you talk too much when you shuld be focusing on improving your skill level.
As long as Crow continues doing the right things his time will come.

[davetolomy]

Are you just trying to upset me and lower my self esteem fogs?

I just thought Crow was someone who stood out and I thought I would recognise this by proposing him for a place among us.

You making recomendations will make no differance what so ever

You call it a family. Families listen to what everyone within that family has to say. I would not have minded atall if you'd just said you respected my input but you didn't think it was my place.

But no, you basically just insulted me.

[fogs]

If you feel insulted that is your problem. Get over it!
If you choose not to take notice of what i said that is your choice.
STOP whinings.
These issues get spoken about at the right time by the right people, As things stand atm it is not the right time and you are not the right person.
Leave it those who understand what it takes rather than hopelessly trying to manipulate a situation

[Maverick]

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Nominations are inappropriate for Flying Squad and acceptance should be a natural course based on an individual's performance and attitude towards and around the FS community as well as other people.

Although Dave isn't in a real position to name potential members for that reason, I think Fogs may have been a bit rough on the guy. Also - and I'm sorry Fogs - I have to disagree with combatting Dave's input with a suggestion of a different traceur as the next member for FS. I think Dave was simply trying to show enthusiasm for another traceur's ambition to learn and progress.

[god]

Dave let it be, people always come in to fs in natural selection, like midge took a while and gavin all examples, it will happen if it does, let it follow its own course

[fogs]

When i mentioned JamesPK it wasnt an attempt to knock back Labotomy it was an honest oppinion of how i see things currently.
To my eye JamesPK is exactly what FS is about. And it will only help potential FS members to recognise what they need to aim for.
Of course, this is my oppinion alone and is in no way representative of Flying Squad as a group.
BLIMEY What are things coming to when you feel you need to write a disclaimer after each post just in case someone takes it the wrong way..

[jungle]

this is all im gonna say on this...
ive met him to the best of my knowledge twice now... seen him seriously training once (new years day)
he looks serious about training, he seems like he wants to dedicate... if this is the case then as i understand it, its all about time.
from wat i gather its to early to tell... so if he continues i guess on this path, he shouldnt find it hard to break his way in.

[Danny]

fogs said:

To my eye JamesPK is exactly what FS is about. And it will only help potential FS members to recognise what they need to aim for.

Yeah I love training with James he has a great attitude and is always willing to try new things.

[forbzie]

I remember that the nominations were my idea. I think Dave's nomination is based on his experience with Crow the past week. As long as thare is a majority vote for the person there isn't any problem. I don't have a problem with the nomination, I just think a bit more time should be taken to really get to know the nominee and not rush your decisions. AS it was sayed above thing will take their course when the time is right.

[fogs]

Nominations are not the way forward and are not Flying Squad.
There is no need for anyone to try to manipulate a situation.
When an individual has brought themselves by their actions alone to a position where they are undoubtably already a member of FS (without the tag). Then and only then are they right and ready to become a member of Flying Squad.

I have no problem with Crow and in my mind this isnt about him as an individual at all, I am commentimg on the issue of nominations
An individual cannot be nominated to be a member of Flying Squad. All the individual has to do is become an invaluable integral part of Flying Squad. The 'TAG' of member comes once the individual has proved themself to be a valued member. Not just someone who comes to Southbank to hang around. It aint about being friends with others or thingysucking, because that is directly open to manipulation, as has already been proved with past situations.
Becoming a member of Flying Squad isnt/shouldnt be, the important aspect. The important aspect is dedication to becoming the best traceur possible, while being the right kind of character that will naturally represent & promote FS principals.

[forbzie]

That was the point of the nominations and that is what i commented on, a person should be nominated once they have become a part of the FS community. they shouldn't be nominated on the first day for whatever reason. The nominations are there to remove cofusion about LONGTERM assosiates with FS who everyone takes to be a part of FS but isn't exactly clear if they are a member or not . The idea wasn't for people to be nominated on the first day,but for peope who we all know and trust to have some sort of formal inventation.

[fogs]

It is neccessary to become an accepted member of Flying Squad, Then the 'TAG' comes after.
Nominations will encourage people to nominate others because they like them or because they bought them a sandwich from Saunsbury's or other nonsense like that. Nominations are absokutly open to manipulation.
The indevidual has to proove themself to be an integral accepted part of Flying Squad then the membership comes after.
FS family promote the understanding that the important thing is not about getting membership the important thing is to behave as a member of Flying Squad before you get the 'TAG'.
It needs to be understood that to become a member of Flying Squad you must behave as a member of Flying Squad with the correct attitude towards training and how the individual interacts with others.

[pkpete]

personally i dnt think crow joining FS would make any diffrence to his progress from parkour he just does parkour he jumps around and he enjoys it wether or not hes in a crew