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Post by drproctor on Sept 2, 2006 1:19:50 GMT
ok If "God" is omnipitant and all powerful can God make a banana that is to hot for him to eat.
i have the answer but i want to see how ppl get on
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Post by fogs on Sept 2, 2006 6:45:03 GMT
There is no God.
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Post by drproctor on Sept 2, 2006 11:57:40 GMT
its a hypathetical situation
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Post by gimpmasterpanda on Sept 2, 2006 13:03:09 GMT
yes of course he can if god did "make heaven and earth" then surely good can make himself a banana to hot to eat,
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Post by drproctor on Sept 2, 2006 13:11:53 GMT
to hot for HIM to eat. if god is all powerful then he can make it but if it is too hot for him to eat then he is not all powerful because he cant eat it
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Post by kingo on Sept 2, 2006 13:57:54 GMT
how can we be sure god is man. I belive in bible even though havn't read all of it. but I think God can.
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Post by fogs on Sept 2, 2006 14:02:29 GMT
There is no God!!
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Post by fogs on Sept 2, 2006 14:06:23 GMT
its a hypathetical situation If so, why use the mind control concept of god. You have been brainwashed.
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Post by drproctor on Sept 2, 2006 15:39:41 GMT
just so u no this i didnt make this up its a recognised philosophy question anyway it uses "God" because god is a concept/being (depending on ur belife) that is all powerful. even if u don't belive in god the character of god is still omnipitant. but can we please not do a debat about the exsistance of god and look at the question. the reason its a paradox is; if god is all powerful then surly he can make a banana to hot for him to eat. problem is if it is too hot for him to eat then he is not all powerful so he can't make it. if god was truly all powerful then he could make a banana too hot for him to eat and eat it aswell but thats not possible. its a hypathetical situation If so, why use the mind control concept of god. You have been brainwashed. im a buddhist i don't belive in God (not in the traditional sense anyway) not that it should amke a differance p.s. i say "he" for the sake of clarity
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Post by fogs on Sept 2, 2006 18:34:50 GMT
You continually surprise me Dr. The concept of god is mind control patterning. There is no god, You may as well replace the concept of god with the concept of a bar of soap being onmipotent. That you realate the illusion of a god with onmipotence shows your conditioning Dog doesnt exist. How does saying 'he' clarify anything?
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Post by drproctor on Sept 2, 2006 19:57:47 GMT
u say that with such conviction. the way i see it God was created (assuming god does not exsist) to give people hope and so people could try and understand the world they live in. i don't despute that as time moved on God turned into something else but i don't belive the acient aztecs created Gods to control people, nor the egyptions or the vikings or the arabs or the japanese. all of these cultures created God(s) indipendatly of each other. to me this shows that it was in the natural progression of man to creat something high than them selves whether it was true or not.
u also make the assumption that when i say god i mean it in the biblical sense. to many God is just a word that describes a focrce but i appreciate that isnt in the context of the question.
"God" is just a word that can be interpreted how ever u like. to some it is a being resembling a man who activly controls our lives, to others it is what judges u.
to me God is the life force that put us all in motion, it is not a conciouse being that thinks but God is the part of our minds that knows what is right. God is our conscience
and to an ever growing group of people God is a fantasy, a conspiracy that the stupid people of the world have fallen for.
im just gonna assume that there is now no way we r going bak to my original question
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Post by fogs on Sept 2, 2006 20:51:51 GMT
Dr it you who is making assumptions. Dog doesnt exist!
You are heavily conditioned, which is to be expected.
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Post by drproctor on Sept 2, 2006 21:04:49 GMT
but u used conditioned in such a broad sense. what does it reli mean? i could equaly say u r conditioned to speak. u have been taught from birth to speak so u do. i could apply this to alot of things.
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Post by jungle on Sept 2, 2006 22:27:13 GMT
ok, dont know how many of you read the da vinci code, or angels and demons, the theory in there is more likely to be true. i personally dont believe in "god" as such, but more of "force" or "fate" following. like the starwars there is something out there, just nothing solid, if there was a god, there wud have to be a heaven and hell, if hell is under us, heaven is above is, yet thru space travel we shoot thru the clouds.
sooner or later, we will travel to other planets, when we pray there, will our prayers fly thru the universe to this one planet, it is a concept for people to have meaning in their life, and nothing else, it is to explain the unexplainable. people way of coming to terms with injustice orthe wonders that happen.
science and religion have been enemys for ever because everything god is sed to have done, science is showing that there is a rule and mathmatical equation of sort to prove it all wrong.
i recommend reading the previously stated books, because true or not, they have very valid and more likely more truth to it then people think.
sorry couldnt help but put in my theory on whether there or is not a god.
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Post by fogs on Sept 3, 2006 7:17:34 GMT
but u used conditioned in such a broad sense. what does it reli mean? i could equaly say u r conditioned to speak. u have been taught from birth to speak so u do. i could apply this to alot of things. We are all victim to our upbringing & perception of reality. Some have chosen to work through the programming others simply accept all they are programmed with as true. However there is no Dog it doesnt exist. It is a program of control that has been uttilised for millenia to control the masses.
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