The God paradox

[fogs]

jungle said:

ok, fogs, i see your point, but u say there aint no GOD/DOG u think its a mind control thing. control the masses. we are wat we make ourselves e.t.c
but that is YOUR opinion. you trying to force that onto others isnt going to work.
u and me mite believe that it is a miond control technique but there are people who do need to believe in something, to believe they are not alone. think of the homeless kids... they rele dont want to think of themselves alone in the world, they need to believe in something.

I will never force my oppinions upon anyone. I think you do not undestand the statement you are making.

jungle said:

god is a symbol, symbols are powerful, wars have been fought for them, people can be scarred of them. but its something to give certain ppl meaning to their lives.

Those who have used the Dog concept to control people have also used the Dog concept to make people fight eachother.
No-one needs the Dog concept to give purpose to their lives the concept of Dog has been used to make people beleive they are less than or are in the shadow of some mighty being that they should worship.[/quote]

jungle said:

whether u an me believe in him is our choice, but stop saying there isnt one. u may not believe it but it dont mean that no1 else does.

'HIM' what is that all about so now you are calling the Dog concept 'HIM'. and you have the audacity to make the above statement to me. Your having a bath.

jungle said:

science and religion have been at war and i think i sed earlier, science is revaling the answer to many of the things we thank "god" for... what ever people believe, we can say our opinions, but fogs, your always on about people being brainwashed and keeping an open mind... but it is u who i think has a closed mind and locked box on this subject.

Science & religion are major factors in the control of people. yes science & religion have foughtas science continually destroys the Dog myth, however, fortunately for the religious Dog is omnipotent and any scientific discoveries that destroy the myth are fought against and often surpressed by religion and or accpeted as simply a part of Dog's creation. There is no room for rational with those parameters, the religious will simply move the ehtical & moral goal posts as is continually happening but thankfully most people see through the dogma.

[fogs]

drproctor said:

I have no doubt that religeon is to blame fro many of the world problems but one cannot simply view religion and God as the same thing. God IS what ever the individual see's God as, we all belive in God; even fogs. he has a very negative view on God but God is still their to him but it is a bad thing. i have a very positive view on God. i don't belive it will judge me and i don't reli belive its their but i belive that God means alot to alot of people and that can't be a bad thing.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN DOG CONCEPT!!!!!!!!!
I dont have a negastive view of Dog concept, it doesnt exist1

The Dog concept has been utillised by many different olligarchs, dictators & empires under many different guises to control the people that will claim allegiance without any proof that Dog concept exists, manipulating them to kill eachother because their Dog is best.
These people didnt care if it could be prooved they simply believed because they had been brainwashed

drproctor said:

If u ask me the real "enemy" here is religeon, they r the ones that have manipulated God to meet their own means. God didnt write the bible or the qu'ran or any religeous books they were all writen by man.as was Maleus Maleficarim.

It is the religio's that have constructed and burnt the Dog concept so strongly into our cultural inheritence to control and keep us down.
No, Dog didnt write the bible, how could a false concept write a bible the religio's who constructed the concept of Dog for people to believe wrote the bible to give them the word of Dog so that they could be brainwashed by it.

drproctor said:

people look for someone to blaim and they find the perfect scapegoat in God (in the biblical sense) it is religeon that has turned the world against God.

Of course peole look for someone to blame for the atrocities commited in the name of Dog & religion and of course anyone in their right mind will see through the lies, deceit, destruction & murder. It is only those who are utterly brainwashed who will refuse to really see the light through the darkness of the Dog myth concept.

[drproctor]

[quote author=fogs board=questionpage thread=1157159990 post=1157557900
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN DOG CONCEPT!!!!!!!!!
I dont have a negastive view of Dog concept, it doesnt exist1
[/quote]

you say it doesnt exist yet u r prepared to write paragraphs on it. u may have consiously chosen not to belive in the God concept but if u reli didnt care and didnt belive in the God concept u wouldnt even be here talking about it.
again i find it hard to explain in text alone.
if you truly didnt belive in the God concept u wouldnt even partake in this discussion but part of u, ur sub-concious has to belive in it; maybe not that God is all powerful and commands our lives ect ect (u definatly do not belive in that) but u r so passionate about what u r saying u have to belive in the "God concept" somewere

(if u drew any meaning out of that well done cause im aware it amde no sense, i got a bit confused)

Modern language is a concept yet we still see that as existing. infact we can't deny its existance (im not talking about reality ect here) because we invented the concept. so if we invented the concept of language and view it as existing then can we not creat the concept of god and view it as existing?

i wasnt confusing god with Good, i no my posts dont always make sense its my dyslexia shining through.

[fogs]

drproctor said:

[quote author=fogs board=questionpage thread=1157159990 post=1157557900
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN DOG CONCEPT!!!!!!!!!
I dont have a negastive view of Dog concept, it doesnt exist1

drproctor said:

you say it doesnt exist yet u r prepared to write paragraphs on it. u may have consiously chosen not to belive in the God concept but if u reli didnt care and didnt belive in the God concept u wouldnt even be here talking about it.

My character is to stand up for those who are being used & manipulated. If this discusion were on a variety of matters relating to subversion and control of the people i would be the same. I promise you i dont believe in Dog concept.

drproctor said:

if you truly didnt belive in the God concept u wouldnt even partake in this discussion but part of u, ur sub-concious has to belive in it; maybe not that God is all powerful and commands our lives ect ect (u definatly do not belive in that) but u r so passionate about what u r saying u have to belive in the "God concept" somewere

I refer you to my above response.
It is one of the burning issues of the destruction of mankind & Earth this i feel passionately about.
I couldnt give a monkies uncle for Dog concept

drproctor said:

i wasnt confusing god with Good

I think you are too. There is no need for a Dog concept for you to feel good about yourself.

Please watch the video link it is a little slow but very enlightening regarding the creation and use of Dog myth concept throughout history.

video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6140962143628230838

Dog doesnt exist!
if you have to resort to what you wrote above to explain yourself then you are barking up the wrong tree.
I could equally say you dont believe Dog concept or else you wouldnt be here. It is a pointless statement and takes us nowhere.
I feel very strongly about the mind control, death and destruction that has been meted out on the people of the planet to keep them from realising the truth.
Dog doesnt exist
Please try not to make outlandish and unsubstantiated statements all it will do is destroy the thread. Let's all agree to try to remain sensible in all serious discussions on the FS forum.

[gimpmasterpanda]

hey guys u really are taking this very far!!!

I personally dont believe in god itself but i do believe there may be a god out there!!

just cos i think that i aint brainwashed or anything, my parents, family and teachers have taught me that god is real in all religions which means i havent been brainwashed i was brought up taht way!! just because ur parents may not have told u about god or about religion doesnt mean it doesnt exist!! i understand ur point jon but the way u are approaching other people about believing in god is rude!!

If i was a religious man then i would be offended that u just come and start saying there is no god, Dr started by saying if there was a god!!! he was trying to make a point of power!! and u took it the wrong way and almost told dr he was wrong to believe in something that u dont!!

i really think u should let this lie before someone gets seriously offended!! if it must come to it keep ur opinions on god to urself because for some it is a touchy subject

[drproctor]

i agree with theo, Non of us have the right to say there is no God and Non of us have the right to say there is. it is an un aswerable question and non of us should claim we know the answer and we should definatly not have to justify our belifes to others.

i don't mind having these disscusions but i am upset my original question which was just to inspire some free thought and to get u talk ask your selfs some questions went so sour

[fogs]

Dog doesnt exist!
Deal with it.

Dont tell others what they can or cant say on this forum. Flying Squad forum is restricted only by Flying Squad principles (not your personal religio nonsense),
if you are not prepared to adhere to them you can post your views on another forum.